urban decay eyeliner

I recently purchased the Urban Decay eyeliner that I heard was good (Allure award or something). Anyway, I got the black, some color called Dime and another called Gun Powder. My daughter was with me so some of it was for her. The woman at the Sephora counter scared us a bit when she asked if we have a heavy duty eye makeup remover because this stuff is "industrial" (she said) in terms of waterproof. I don't think it really is though. My problem is that I think eyeliner pencil doesn't really work for me. I may not have the right shaped eyes/aging. However, I will say that the Dime and Gun Powder are pretty especially,I think, if you have light eyes. Very silvery/ Probably best on the lower lid. So if you do use eyeliner and are good at putting it on, they are creamy and go on nicely. One other thing about eyeliner I notice, is that I think as you get older, dark eyeliner on the bottom eyelid does not look good. Maybe this is not true for everyone, but I think it draws the eye down. At least it does for me. Just food for thought.